Date   

Re: Web Folders / WebDAV #export #webdav

Tom H
 

  1. Awesome! What WS Plan are you on that supports 10s of GB?
  2. I've tried the CyberDuck WebDAV client without success. Curious to see what one gets. I didn't install AnyClient after it said it couldn't find Java.
  3. Did you do the image fetch script because you want to leave many files behind? I thought you could d/l them with the WebDAV client.
  4. You can get Discussions via the API or with the Exports (except the PDF export). Pose your problem to WS Support. Maybe they would make a Discussions only d/l option on the Export page.
  5. If my 56MB Export took 2 minutes to create the ZIP file, linear extrapolation would suggest 16GB could take 10 hours plus download time.

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Re: Tiki Wiki #export #tikiwiki

mauricio javier
 

  Hi steve i was wondering if you have a step by sted how to import WS backup to tiki wiki i'm doing some research on free hosting sites for my three wikis courses that i was offering with WS since 2011. Now with the endo of WS need a solution for my courses and tiki wiki seems to be the best option i would appreciate any help you can give me.


Web Folders / WebDAV #export #webdav

messydesk
 

Our wiki is quite large (10s of GB), and I gave up on the export.  I created a test wiki with only a megabyte of stuff in it and tried the various export flavors, and none were directly importable into a Mediawiki-based wiki, so I gave up on it.  I used the AnyClient application running on Windows to download all the pages with the Webdav address, then wrote a Python script to find all the internal images referenced in the downloaded pages and then download those.  It took a few hours total for 16 GB.  Discussion board didn't come along with it, however.  I guess the lesson is that if you have a large wiki, don't wait for an export job.


Re: Export processing slow? #export

Tom H
 

A HTML-Zip export tonight took just a couple of minutes. That's encouraging for those wanting to download near the end but they better have an early download in case...

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Re: Mywiki support?

Weasel Bucket
 

I'm not sure about service providers, but Pywikibot is a pretty good tool: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/replace.py 


Re: Detailed migration instruction for Wordpress #wordpress

Tom H
 

I've been struggling on and off with a DIY migration to WordPress. Getting closer, the number of pages and files that are not imported or to which links are broken is now down to a couple dozen - a manageable quantity to correct manually. For what it's worth, I've been logging my steps into a procedural doc so I can repeat them, as I have had to many times and continue to revise them. I'm sharing it here to:
  1. be of some help to semi-geeks like me
  2. illustrate the complexities that are involved in any migration from Wikispaces
  3. invite comment, suggestions on how the procedures might be improved
My WP site is not ready for showing and it's up and down like a whack-a-mole. I have to get my head around building a main page, adding subscribers & contributors, choosing a style theme and customising if needed, all these WordPressy things I've never worked with before. It's been a major learning curve...

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Re: Export processing slow? #export

Tom H
 

Export requests yesterday subsequent to my last post in this thread have been completed in a couple of minutes. Export processing time has been very volatile.

I also discovered that old exports that have been displaced from the Export/Backup page (limit of 2 on the page on the Plus plan) by newer requests are retrievable by deleting the later exports. They reappear on the page. The link in the email message reporting the export is ready dead ends unless the export in question is listed on the page. Exports that you delete on the page are gone, of course. 

Neither MediaWiki nor DokuWiki appear to have been improved or changed in the last month or longer while HTML has, for the better. Although the export page options the export of Discussions and Comments on the HTML page, I see no sign of the inline Comments, yet.  

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis)
 

Hi Barb,
I replied to you on your ticket - I showed you a way to make the links work. All the documents have already been imported onto your wiki, so no need to reupload anything.


Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Barb Kikta
 

Hi Jeffrey,

I can get in to my account now.Thank you. I had a question but my ticket was refused -too many open. Sorry.

My word documents are not transferring. The links are there but no document.

Thanks, 
barb




From: Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) <j@...>
To: main@Wikispaces-Refugees.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikispaces-Refugees] Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Hi Barb,
I'll help you on the support system.



Re: Mywiki support?

Tom H
 

Is "miwiki" a typo of "MyWiki", as in Jeffrey's MyWikis.com? When you say "service provider", that would be Jeffrey. Perhaps you mean any MediaWiki power user who could help you rectify problems and clean up your site. 


On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:50 PM <kreisle@...> wrote:
Any recommendations for service providers that will help with correcting links, etc on a miwiki that is already set up?


--

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Mywiki support?

kreisle@...
 

Any recommendations for service providers that will help with correcting links, etc on a miwiki that is already set up?


Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis)
 

Hi Barb,
I'll help you on the support system.


Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Barb Kikta
 

Hi Jeffrey, 
I cannot get in to my mywikis account.
Barb




From: Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis) <j@...>
To: main@Wikispaces-Refugees.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikispaces-Refugees] Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Hi Barbara,
Thank you for being understanding of the tricky situation we have here. Again, I totally understand the frustration and I know that everyone here is trying to use the best platform possible for them, so if EditMe ends up being a better alternative, we will be able to offer you a refund for the most recently paid month if you decide to cancel.



Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Jeffrey Wang (MyWikis)
 

Hi Barbara,
Thank you for being understanding of the tricky situation we have here. Again, I totally understand the frustration and I know that everyone here is trying to use the best platform possible for them, so if EditMe ends up being a better alternative, we will be able to offer you a refund for the most recently paid month if you decide to cancel.


Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Barb Kikta
 

Thank you very much, Tom for taking the time to explain what the issues are in migrating from wikispaces at a level I understand:) I thought it would be easy since I only need to embed audio and video, post word documents and links. I am not concerned about design since this is a "resource site for students" not a commercial site for public viewing. I am working on this with the support people from Mywikis and Editme who have been very responsive and patient trying to get my demos working properly.  



From: Tom H <ve3meo@...>
To: main@Wikispaces-Refugees.groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikispaces-Refugees] Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Barb, your experience is probably typical. It is not a simple process to convert a Wikispaces export into any other host. It's a bit like translating between two languages, neither of which is your mother tongue. If you do it yourself, you need to know the two languages and the quality of your translation will depend very much on how well you know them both and on the effort you put in to make it accurate and stylish. The same is true for any interpreter you may hire to do it for you. No two interpreters are going to produce the exact same translation and the errors they make may be different. MyWikis, EditMe and CiviHosting all offer translation (migration) services from various flavours of Wikispaces exports (which themselves have evolved somewhat recently) to a small set of other platforms. They have MediaWiki in common and one or more also offer DokuWiki and WordPress. 

I cannot tell you which provider currently does a better job of importing or which platform is best suited to your needs. I had free migration trials on all three hosts (thanks to their cooperation) which I've reported on but they are over and each has been improving its import process. In all cases, substantial work would be required on my part to fix problems and develop the navigation/menu system and other things to get the site to look and work acceptably. Their improvements have been informed by the growing number of customers each has helped; given the many features of Wikispaces, there have undoubtedly been many problems.

I have also been exploring DIY on various platforms which has made me realize just how many pitfalls there are. In my case, I seem to be having the greatest success with WordPress, adapting the instructions reported in this forum by @lectrichead - but I'm still far from happy with it and it is challenging to get my head around how WordPress works and the gazillion options there are.

So I fear that you are in a pretty large cohort of Wikispaces Refugees who are discovering that there is no equal to Wikispaces and that, regardless of who carries out the migration, they have to learn a new system, a new way of doing things and will have considerable work to do on their new site to make it usable.  

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces



Re: Export processing slow? #export

Tom H
 
Edited

Or did Support intervene and do something special? I just discovered that my July 16 and 18 requests have also been fulfilled, although no email notice has been delivered email notices all timestamped within 2 minutes of each other. So that would be 9 days, 3 days and 1 day respectively, the last request issued by Support person TES_Matthew.

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Re: Export processing slow? #export

Tom H
 

9 days! That's how long my July 10 MediaWiki export request took to complete. And it completed despite being bumped off the 2-export display. Maybe there is no limit on the number of export requests; at least, it is larger than the display limit. And that could be contributing to export server overload as users, frustrated by the never-ending "pending" status, issue fresh requests.

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Marc M
 

  If you ever need a question answered on Wordpress itself I may be able to help.

  Wordpress is certainly a great option, and I agree with everything you said about migration.

Marc M

> I have also been exploring DIY on various platforms which has made me > realize just how many pitfalls there are. In my case, I seem to be > having the greatest success with WordPress, adapting the instructions > reported in this forum by @lectrichead - but I'm still far from happy > with it and it is challenging to get my head around how WordPress > works and the gazillion options there are.


Re: Problems Migrating to MyWikis #mediawiki #problem #mywikis #migration

Tom H
 

Barb, your experience is probably typical. It is not a simple process to convert a Wikispaces export into any other host. It's a bit like translating between two languages, neither of which is your mother tongue. If you do it yourself, you need to know the two languages and the quality of your translation will depend very much on how well you know them both and on the effort you put in to make it accurate and stylish. The same is true for any interpreter you may hire to do it for you. No two interpreters are going to produce the exact same translation and the errors they make may be different. MyWikis, EditMe and CiviHosting all offer translation (migration) services from various flavours of Wikispaces exports (which themselves have evolved somewhat recently) to a small set of other platforms. They have MediaWiki in common and one or more also offer DokuWiki and WordPress. 

I cannot tell you which provider currently does a better job of importing or which platform is best suited to your needs. I had free migration trials on all three hosts (thanks to their cooperation) which I've reported on but they are over and each has been improving its import process. In all cases, substantial work would be required on my part to fix problems and develop the navigation/menu system and other things to get the site to look and work acceptably. Their improvements have been informed by the growing number of customers each has helped; given the many features of Wikispaces, there have undoubtedly been many problems.

I have also been exploring DIY on various platforms which has made me realize just how many pitfalls there are. In my case, I seem to be having the greatest success with WordPress, adapting the instructions reported in this forum by @lectrichead - but I'm still far from happy with it and it is challenging to get my head around how WordPress works and the gazillion options there are.

So I fear that you are in a pretty large cohort of Wikispaces Refugees who are discovering that there is no equal to Wikispaces and that, regardless of who carries out the migration, they have to learn a new system, a new way of doing things and will have considerable work to do on their new site to make it usable.  

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces


Re: Export processing slow? #export

Tom H
 

Early this morning, a Wikispaces Support tech (TES_Matthew) issued a Dokuwiki Export request on my site, supplanting my July 12 MediaWiki request that was still pending. Presumably, that was in response to my July 15 message to the Help desk a couple of days ago about my July 10 request that was still pending. Now I have two pending DokuWiki requests from July 16 and 18 - both pending. I had replaced my unfinished July 10 on the 16th and his today terminated mine on the 12th. 

Were I facing July 31 as my site's drop-dead date, I'd be getting worried.

Tom
Looking to move SQLite Tools For RootsMagic from Wikispaces

41 - 60 of 215